Beginning around the time I started this blog in 2013 I made a decision to try to avoid all drug-sponsored information.
This meant, among other things, not participating in the lunches that various pharmaceutical reps sponsored in our office and not going to drug-sponsored dinners.
I consider this part of a healthy skepticism and I wrote in a previous post
” I realized that any time I spent listening to a heavily biased pharmaceutical representative promoting their product was replacing and/or competing in my brain with information about medications and diseases from unbiased sources. In subtle ways, even to the most ethical doctors, this has been shown to effect prescribing practice. If it didn’t, these companies would not be spending billions promoting their drugs directly to doctors.”
Today, I’m looking at a typical flier that was put on my desk for a “Program” at Stoney River Legendary Steaks in Chesterfield and pondering if I should attend.
I shall lay out the specifics and let my readers decide via a poll.
Topic of the Program: Expensive New Cholesterol Lowering Drug
The topic is “Praluent (alirocumab) Injection: Achieving Further LDL-C Control With two different doses.”
Praluent is one of two new cholesterol lowering drugs that are being very heavily promoted to physicians right now.
I have found it nearly impossible to avoid print advertisements for Repatha, the other new cholesterol lowering drug as large print advertisements often cover the scientific journals that I read.
Both of these drugs are made from mouse antibodies, require injections either monthly or twice monthly and work on the PCSK9 receptors (I touched on this on one of my posts from the ACC meeting in March) to lower LDL or bad cholesterol by 60%.
Both are going to be really expensive and are expected to boost dramatically revenues from the companies making them. Amgen, the company selling Repatha will charge 14,000$ per year and Sanofi/Regeneron the companies marketing Praluent will be in the same range.
I’ve been reading about them and talking to a few patients who I thought would be good candidates since they were approved earlier this year.
However, I’ve scrupulously tried to avoid having my brain filled with information provided by pharmaceutical representatives or articles written by physicians heavily under the sway of the companies making these drugs.
I want to make my treatment decisions based totally on unbiased information, preferably the original studies which establish efficacy.
The Inherent Bias of Drug-Sponsored Dinner Talks
I’ve been to a lot of these drug-sponsored dinner talks prior to 2013 and I know that the information presented is very biased. The allure for physicians is a free dinner at a fancy steakhouse with unlimited glasses of good wine. While we are chowing down we get to hear information on a new drug presented by a physician who is typically being paid thousands of dollars by the drug company to give a 45 minute presentation of slides that were created by the drug company.
Said physician may have absolutely no special expertise in the area being discussed but has usually been to “speaker-training” meetings sponsored by the drug company where he/she undergoes intense training on the condition being treated and the drug’s effects and side effects. Typically the physician is paid several thousand dollars for attending these meetings with all expenses covered.
Dr. Bernard McGuire, an internist at Mercy Hospital here in St. Louis will be presenting the slides. You can check out his prescribing profile (or any doctor for that matter) here,
You can also enter his name in to Pro Publica’s “Dollars for Docs” database here. If you do you will discover that between August 2013 and December 2014 he received $60,000 dollars from Pfizer for giving talks about the new anticoagulant Eliquis.
He received between $1100 and $2500 dollars for each one of these talks.
(You can also enter my name in and see that I have been reported as receiving $227 dollars from drug or device companies. I maintain this is an error since I haven’t participated in the drug sponsored lunches in my office they are listing).
The End Result
As a physician I feel compelled to keep up to date on the latest developments in medicine that have the potential to help my patients. This certainly includes learning about new medications.
The information presented at drug-sponsored dinners is generally accurate and most physicians feel that they are not biased by attending these functions.
However, the combination of all of the insidious ways that drug companies bombard physicians with information about new drugs likely leads to over prescribing and irrational exuberance about their safety and effectiveness.
Should the skeptical cardiologist keep up his purist stance on avoiding drug-sponsored drug information or should he savor the steak and fine red wine while soaking up potentially biased but possibly life-saving information?
2 thoughts on “Should I Get My Info On Expensive New Drugs at a Drug-sponsored Dinner?”
Great blog on Drug Companies. I like your view but I did vote yes on the poll.
It is always politically correct to demonize drug companies and, on occasion, it would be accurate, i.e. Turing Pharmaceuticals, etc. However, I think most people malign the industry without acknowledging that it’s very high risk and funded principally by itself. When one looks at the automobile industry, for example, that the government funded most of the safety improvements in automobiles over the past 50 years. This is not true in the pharmaceutical industry. This industry funds its own improvements and loses billions each year on projects that don’t work out. So, when one does, it makes sense the company and its shareholders should en entitled to a return on its investment. What’s more, it is important for patients and others to realize that today the United States serves as the innovator for almost all improvements in therapy. New drugs don’t come from Europe, Asia, India, or any other country and yet other countries employ aggressive price controls. Perhaps that’s why they don’t innovate.
Back to the blog – the FDA approves each and every product a pharmaceutical company promotes. It approves the drug based on mountains of unbiased scientific evidence, some of which probably isn’t even necessary. Additionally, the FDA approves PIs and labeling, which includes what that rep at a dinner says. It also includes what that physician says about the drug. The industry has been assessed countless millions of dollars for turning its back on what contracted physicians say at these dinners.
You are well read and clearly unbiased in your use of pharmaceutical products. I trust your judgment to go to a dinner, enjoy the meal and not be influenced by what a speaker may say.
Thanks for those excellent points. It’s helpful to understand how well vetted drugs are by the FDA and how much Americans support lower prices elsewhere in the world.
Having been a speaker in the past for several drugs I can also attest to how scrupulously the pharmaceutical companies try to stick to data and the FDA indications in their sponsored presentations.
Personally, I always felt like I was bending over backwards to be balanced and unbiased in my presentation and just present the facts for my audience.